Against Feminism

[TitusTwoWife]

This thread will be a space for posting videos, thoughts, discussion, graphics, and articles about feminism. Mine will all be against it.

Feminism is founded on lies and is terrible for women, men, children, and society. It contributes to obesity problems in nations, has caused the abortion of millions of babies, divorce has skyrocketed, and is highly unbiblical.

What worked for centuries is biblical patriarchy. Ill be explaining that this was not a system of oppression towards women. Think of the Titanic and who got to escape the sinking ship first.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

I highly recommend Rachel Wilson's book Occult Feminism.

She goes into some of it in this interview where she explains some of the myths of feminism.

For example, most women were actually against suffrage or the right for women to vote.

Women owned property, were educated, and had women's colleges before feminism took hold.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

 

[TitusTwoWife]

 

[David]

I highly recommend Rachel Wilson's book Occult Feminism.

She goes into some of it in this interview where she explains some of the myths of feminism.

For example, most women were actually against suffrage or the right for women to vote.

Women owned property, were educated, and had women's colleges before feminism took hold.

From the video there’s no question the culture has drifted far from God’s design.

But we’ve got to be careful not to turn this into feminism versus patriarchy like it’s just a system problem. Scripture doesn’t deal with it that way. The root issue isn’t feminism. It’s sin.

Jesus said, “For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts… pride…” ~Mark 7:21–22. That’s the problem. You can remove feminism tomorrow and still have broken homes, selfishness, and rebellion because the heart hasn’t changed.

And what worked in the past wasn’t a label like “patriarchy.” It was people actually living under God’s authority. Scripture does give order. “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord” ~Ephesians 5:22. But it also says, “Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it” ~Ephesians 5:25. That’s not control. That’s sacrifice.

So the answer isn’t just pushing back on feminism. The answer is returning to what God actually said and dealing with the real issue, which is the heart. Do you think removing God from public life is part of why things are declining?

Because without that, you can change systems all day and nothing truly gets fixed.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

But we’ve got to be careful not to turn this into feminism versus patriarchy like it’s just a system problem. Scripture doesn’t deal with it that way. The root issue isn’t feminism. It’s sin.

A lot of people do not see the problems in feminism and how it can lead to sin. It's worth talking about.

And what worked in the past wasn’t a label like “patriarchy.” It was people actually living under God’s authority.

I do not separate biblical order and patriarchy. Patriarchy just means "rule of the father". The Bible is patriarchal. It may be a term that makes people uncomfortable but it's still accurate.

Do you believe society has done just as well under feminism? I can't say it has.

Feminism undermines so many core tenets of Christian doctrine. It calls marriage and motherhood slavery. It undermines male leadership and headship. It denies the goodness of masculinity. It creates competition between men and women instead of cooperation.

 

[David]

Do you believe society has done just as well under feminism? I can't say it has.

No I do not believe society has done well under feminism.

I hear what you’re saying, and you’re right, a lot of what’s being pushed today under feminism runs straight against what Scripture teaches. That’s worth calling out.

I was just pointing out what the bible said about the issue.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

This is a really good segment explaining the value of getting married young and going ahead and starting a family. Crowder combats the idea that you need to be wealthy to have children, promoting stay at home motherhood and homeschooling as key factors that produce great outcomes.

 

[David]

This is a really good segment explaining the value of getting married young and going ahead and starting a family. Crowder combats the idea that you need to be wealthy to have children, promoting stay at home motherhood and homeschooling as key factors that produce great outcomes.

Yeah, I hear what you’re saying, and I think this is a good conversation to have. There’s definitely truth in pushing back on the idea that you need to be wealthy before having kids. Scripture doesn’t present children as something you wait on until life is perfect. It actually says, “Children are an heritage of the LORD” ~Psalm 127:3, so they’re a blessing, not a burden tied to income.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

I loved shopping, restaurants, and college. This was the lifestyle I grew up with. But no place compares to home.

It's profitable to teach women to crave chaos and to be loud like the harlot of Proverbs 7.

Proverbs 7:11
King James Version
11 (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:

If companies can convince women that home is boring and stifling, then they're more likely to fuel their shopping addictions.

But when home is invested in, meals, exercise, rest, and connection at home are special and irreplaceable.

I learned to be home-centered through my husband's influence and Scripture. Titus 2:3-5 says women are to be obedient keepers at home among other things so that the Word of God is not blasphemed.

While it's fine to leave the house, home-centeredness is to be the focus of married women. And after unlearning worldly values, home has truly stolen my heart. It is a sanctuary. A special place.

 

[bobinfaith]

This thread will be a space for posting videos, thoughts, discussion, graphics, and articles about feminism. Mine will all be against it.

Feminism is founded on lies and is terrible for women, men, children, and society. It contributes to obesity problems in nations, has caused the abortion of millions of babies, divorce has skyrocketed, and is highly unbiblical.

What worked for centuries is biblical patriarchy. Ill be explaining that this was not a system of oppression towards women. Think of the Titanic and who got to escape the sinking ship first.

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Good morning, TitusTwoWife;

I was 11 years old in 1968. At a young age I wasn't familiar with feminism but remember the various slogans about women's rights, songs that were written about it, equal pay, etc...

To me, this has been going on for decades. I read the Rockefeller statement and feel Nick and Aaron were out of touch, even for those times;

"Women going to work was an opportunity for increased payroll taxes. Women would spend more time away from the family and the state / teachers would be able to indoctrinate and control children. All this according to the world doctrine."

The flip side of this is Godly women who stayed home as a full time Mom. My mother chose not to hold a job because the Lord provided all our needs. Her role identified God's character though things were not perfect, her children still grew up stable and secure.

She never grumbled about being a slave at home, missed career opportunities or the freedom outside the home. To her, the home foundation took precedence.

Dad was deployed twice during the Vietnam war so Mom stayed home to raise us. By the time I was 15 I had assumed the role as second man of the house and the responsibilities learned by Mom. She went back to school and later was blessed with a federal job.

I believed in many ways this prepared her from being a stay home Mom.

There are hidden lessons for women to learn while God entrusts them the stewardship of being a full time stay home Mom, helper and partner.

Genesis 1 & 2 identifies the woman's role in the home and God's creation of marriage.

Galatians 3:28, 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. - RSV

God bless you, TitusTwoWife.

Bob

 

[TitusTwoWife]

Feminism did not make women happier. An interesting study concluded that women reported greater levels of happiness in the 1970's. As time went on men became the happier reporting gender.

I grew up in a post feminist world. When I attended my senior year of high school, not one adult in my life suggested I could go on to be a homemaker. I was definitely asked which college I wanted to go to. I dreaded college and frankly did not want to go. But there was so much pressure from family, I felt like I could hardly voice this.

I think if I could've met my husband without the pressure to go to college, I would have avoided a lot of stress and mental health issues. I'd have started having babies earlier.

I was told I couldn't rely on a man to take care of me, so I had to pick a career. Getting married and having babies seemed unheard of yet that's what I secretly craved.

I think women were happier when career was not pushed so heavily. Many feel they have no choice but to work either because of the economy or to pay off student loans. But when you're young, that's a great time to get married and have children. It doesn't mean you settled or you'll stay poor forever. It really is a blessed life.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

As a wife, I strive to fulfill my role of making my husband's life easier so he can fulfill his role of leading, protecting, and providing for me and our children easier.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

Unfortunately a lot of marriage complaints from women sound like this.




They seem to be going out of their way to not be pleased by their spouses efforts. I myself used to argue about chores when we tried to split them and we both worked outside the home. Now, it's different.

I don't expect my husband to do any chores when he comes home. If he wants to help, I'm very grateful but its not an expectation. He pays every single bill so I do see all the domestic things as my responsibility. We don't argue about it either. We each have gotten better and better at our roles, despite me not being raised to be a housewife.

I see therapists posting about how "partners" should come home from work and do chores to help stay at home mom's. I see this as a recipe for stress, resentment, and arguing. A good marriage is about serving where you can, not extracting all you can get. I believe in living in peace and not sacrificing it just to get your man to do extra chores after he's already worked to provide.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

A good marriage is about serving where you can, not extracting all you can get. I believe in living in peace and not sacrificing it just to get your man to do extra chores after he's already worked to provide.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

Titus 2:3-5
King James Version
3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

 

[Yesua888]

It is always appreciated when my husband helps in the kitchen, especially when we have family over is family come often and there are many many of them. There have been times when I have been upset that everything has been left for me to do, even by the women present. I had to express my frustration and that I felt "taken forgranted".

It is not right for everyone present to sit around, waiting for one elderly person to do absolutely everhything, especially when there are so many visitors at one time.

Sometimes, we have to go through the frustrations, to realise that we do need to ask for help, or express our unhappiness. It is especially important to ask for God's help and guidance; it always works!

 

[Yesua888]

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"50/50" ... is something to be TRUTHFUL about ... how much are women really able to do "outside of the kitchen"; do they keep up with their husbands 50/50? Are women really as strong as men, and were they made that way?
Remember the "old days", when most women were "housewives", where the children had someone to come home to after school. Mum used to make breakfast for everyone, lunches, do the household chores, and then supervise homework. Things were in balance!
Then things changed ...
Is there more child abuse since those "old days"?
Is there more separation in homes today?
What about wholesome values?
What happened to Granny and Grandpa, who helped look after the children, when the parents needed some "awway time"?
Do Granny and Grandpa work too nowdays?
How things have changed ...

 

[TitusTwoWife]

It's not that how well I make my home somehow measures me but rather homemaking is an opportunity to sew to the Spirit and serve God. It is the hidden person of the heart that God treasures. So if I serve in my home with a good attitude, love, and view to honor God, the temporary engagement of homemaking becomes my spiritual advantage.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

 

[TitusTwoWife]

 

[Yesua888]

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Good morning, TitusTwoWife;

I was 11 years old in 1968. At a young age I wasn't familiar with feminism but remember the various slogans about women's rights, songs that were written about it, equal pay, etc...

To me, this has been going on for decades. I read the Rockefeller statement and feel Nick and Aaron were out of touch, even for those times;

"Women going to work was an opportunity for increased payroll taxes. Women would spend more time away from the family and the state / teachers would be able to indoctrinate and control children. All this according to the world doctrine."

The flip side of this is Godly women who stayed home as a full time Mom. My mother chose not to hold a job because the Lord provided all our needs. Her role identified God's character though things were not perfect, her children still grew up stable and secure.

She never grumbled about being a slave at home, missed career opportunities or the freedom outside the home. To her, the home foundation took precedence.

Dad was deployed twice during the Vietnam war so Mom stayed home to raise us. By the time I was 15 I had assumed the role as second man of the house and the responsibilities learned by Mom. She went back to school and later was blessed with a federal job.

I believed in many ways this prepared her from being a stay home Mom.

There are hidden lessons for women to learn while God entrusts them the stewardship of being a full time stay home Mom, helper and partner.

Genesis 1 & 2 identifies the woman's role in the home and God's creation of marriage.

Galatians 3:28, 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. - RSV

God bless you, TitusTwoWife.

Bob

I so agree with what you say Bob, and TitusTwoWife ...
This "feminism" movement has caused division ...
The majority of children today go to early day care, and then into school, college, uni then into the workplace. Those good ole days are gone!
How many children, play outdoors (instead of playing on devices for hours). How many children sit on the lawn, climb a tree, swim in a creek, visit friends on their bikes, in the neighbourhood? Children are stuck between 4 walls, and have no inclination to go outside, or to make friends.
Our children spend little time with their intended, proper "primary care givers" because society (the system) has pressurised both parents to work.
Prices continue to rise, forcing both parents, as well as grandparents to work.
The days of grandparents being available for their granschildren are over, and so are days where children were brought up by their parents.Instead they are brought up by the system, and institutions - "separation" by design.
I don't know about other countries (I suspect they are the same), but in Australia, public libraries display and make available, pornagraphic children's books ... some parents protest, but this falls on deaf ears.
Schools teach kindergarden children to masturbate, because this is "normal".
Our children (for generations) have been vulerable to the system in so many ways. This vulnerbility is seen in the choices that parents, and grandparents make today (caught up in this way of life, believing that this is "evolution" or the "norm").
Parents and Gransparents have no time to contemplate or enjoy life as it was mean to be enjoyed. Instead they are forced to stay on the merry go around, (in the rat race), in order to survive and keep up with how the World has been engineered to be today.
The "pandemic" saw so many of us moving away from friends, networks even family members - more separation through differences in opinoin and belief.
Everyone is following this way of life today, so any stay at home Mum is in the minority, and may feel inferior, by not contributing to the coffers that are so necessary now to put food on the table and a roof over the families head.
I remember feeling inferior when I did not work, and the words "a kept woman" was heard so often, in our community.
Feminism (the system) is also indoctrinating people to believe that children are a burden. I can see how this would tie in with the idea that the World is overpopulated too.
If we reflect on how things were say 3 generations ago, and how things are today, the mind boggles.
We have to be honest, and realise that this is not what God wanted for us, and unfortunately it all started at the first disobeyance in the garden ... evil moved in, and everything has gone downhill. Without knowing it, humanity has been unaware of where all this indoctrination, propaganda and "convenience" (as in gadgets) was leading leading us.
It is now time for us to stand on what we believe, change "our" mindsets, and support clean living, and each other.
I am all for homeschooling, and wish that more mums and dads would join forces in the neighbourhood, to roster supervision of the children., looking after the kids.
My time is over as regards homeschooling. However, if there was a need in our neighbourhood, (and I do not belong to a Church in our region, so that door is not open), I would volunteer to have children come to my home to learn creative skills.
Notice how young people are turning to "tiny homes" in order to afford a "roof over their heads" that they can own. Many are looking towards sustainability (growing their own food), and homeschooling kids - yes, in their tiny homes, on rented properties. Things are changing rapidly ...
Anyway, things are as they are, and if we are willing to make a difference, I am sure that God will guide and support us in our endeavours
This is indeed a great topic, thanks TitusTwoWife

 

[TitusTwoWife]

I so agree with what you say Bob, and TitusTwoWife ...
This "feminism" movement has caused division ...
The majority of children today go to early day care, and then into school, college, uni then into the workplace. Those good ole days are gone!
How many children, play outdoors (instead of playing on devices for hours). How many children sit on the lawn, climb a tree, swim in a creek, visit friends on their bikes, in the neighbourhood? Children are stuck between 4 walls, and have no inclination to go outside, or to make friends.
Our children spend little time with their intended, proper "primary care givers" because society (the system) has pressurised both parents to work.
Prices continue to rise, forcing both parents, as well as grandparents to work.
The days of grandparents being available for their granschildren are over, and so are days where children were brought up by their parents.Instead they are brought up by the system, and institutions - "separation" by design.
I don't know about other countries (I suspect they are the same), but in Australia, public libraries display and make available, pornagraphic children's books ... some parents protest, but this falls on deaf ears.
Schools teach kindergarden children to masturbate, because this is "normal".
Our children (for generations) have been vulerable to the system in so many ways. This vulnerbility is seen in the choices that parents, and grandparents make today (caught up in this way of life, believing that this is "evolution" or the "norm").
Parents and Gransparents have no time to contemplate or enjoy life as it was mean to be enjoyed. Instead they are forced to stay on the merry go around, (in the rat race), in order to survive and keep up with how the World has been engineered to be today.
The "pandemic" saw so many of us moving away from friends, networks even family members - more separation through differences in opinoin and belief.
Everyone is following this way of life today, so any stay at home Mum is in the minority, and may feel inferior, by not contributing to the coffers that are so necessary now to put food on the table and a roof over the families head.
I remember feeling inferior when I did not work, and the words "a kept woman" was heard so often, in our community.
Feminism (the system) is also indoctrinating people to believe that children are a burden. I can see how this would tie in with the idea that the World is overpopulated too.
If we reflect on how things were say 3 generations ago, and how things are today, the mind boggles.
We have to be honest, and realise that this is not what God wanted for us, and unfortunately it all started at the first disobeyance in the garden ... evil moved in, and everything has gone downhill. Without knowing it, humanity has been unaware of where all this indoctrination, propaganda and "convenience" (as in gadgets) was leading leading us.
It is now time for us to stand on what we believe, change "our" mindsets, and support clean living, and each other.
I am all for homeschooling, and wish that more mums and dads would join forces in the neighbourhood, to roster supervision of the children., looking after the kids.
My time is over as regards homeschooling. However, if there was a need in our neighbourhood, (and I do not belong to a Church in our region, so that door is not open), I would volunteer to have children come to my home to learn creative skills.
Notice how young people are turning to "tiny homes" in order to afford a "roof over their heads" that they can own. Many are looking towards sustainability (growing their own food), and homeschooling kids - yes, in their tiny homes, on rented properties. Things are changing rapidly ...
Anyway, things are as they are, and if we are willing to make a difference, I am sure that God will guide and support us in our endeavours
This is indeed a great topic, thanks TitusTwoWife

I plan to homeschool my little ones. If you have any advice, I'd love to know.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

I am blessed in my marriage. My husband washes me with the water of the Word. How? I come to him with my needs and weaknesses and he embues me with emotional strength and masculine advice. We discuss Scripture and apply it together.