Are the Prophecies of the Bible Important?

[Hobie]

Many people say, that the prophecies in the Bible have no real purpose or meaning for them, is that true. Or do they point to the events which prove that God is guiding and protecting no matter what the situation at hand, and what does that do for a believer?

 

[David]

Many people say, that the prophecies in the Bible have no real purpose or meaning for them, is that true. Or do they point to the events which prove that God is guiding and protecting no matter what the situation at hand, and what does that do for a believer?

Prophecy isn’t just there to fill pages in our Bible. It is God making sure you know that He is in control. Every prophecy shows us that God sees the end from the beginning. Nothing happens by chance. He spoke it first in ~Amos 3: 7, “Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets.” When God prophesies He is never surmising.

Prophecy tells us the same God who ordained the end from the beginning is still in control of each moment in between. Peter calls it “a more sure word of prophecy”, “a light shining in a dark place” ~2 Peter 1:19. When the days seem uncertain, when the world seems out of control, prophecy assures believers that history is not chaotic, but rather part of His divine story.

This means something for the believer. Prophecy is not there to frighten us, but rather to stabilize us. Prophecy creates a confidence in God’s faithfulness, and helps us walk upright when the world around us is going sideways. Each fulfilled prophecy gives us confidence that if God kept those promises, then He will keep the rest too. One day Christ will return just as He has promised ~John 14: 3, and until then, prophecy calls us to be ready, to be faithful, and to keep our eyes on the God who never fails to keep His Word.

So, when someone says prophecy has no real meaning, they are missing the point. Every prophecy in Scripture is part of God’s revelation to disclose who He is, what He has done, and what He still has to do. Prophecy tells us the Author is still writing the story and for the believer, that is both a warning and a promise.

 

[bobinfaith]

Many people say, that the prophecies in the Bible have no real purpose or meaning for them, is that true. Or do they point to the events which prove that God is guiding and protecting no matter what the situation at hand, and what does that do for a believer?

So, when someone says prophecy has no real meaning, they are missing the point. Every prophecy in Scripture is part of God’s revelation to disclose who He is, what He has done, and what He still has to do. Prophecy tells us the Author is still writing the story and for the believer, that is both a warning and a promise.

Many people including seasoned Christian disciples, new Christian students, and the nominal Christian will ask this question.

A deeper study is required to understand God's purpose for His Prophets, prophecies and their meaning.

Discussion is encouraged but to quickly dismiss what one believes is a common habit amongst Christians. Who's right and who's wrong should not be the point, rather, always refer to the study of God's Word.

In my continued growth in the Word, I believe Major and Minor Prophets were sent by God in the Old Testaments to communicate to His messenger and pass on to God's people, especially the stern warnings.

In the New Testament God still communicate His message to His Prophets through John the Baptist, Paul, John and (I personally call them the minor prophets) Agabus, Philip's four daughters, Silas and Barnabas all in the study book of Acts,(and more.)

I'm always open to listening and correction as a growing disciple. There is benefit in that.

Proverbs 2:2, 2 turning your ear to wisdom and applying your heart to understanding— - NIV

Proverbs 20:5, 5 Counsel in the heart of man is like deep water; but a man of understanding will draw it out. - KJV

My wife and I discuss this and she feels the Holy Spirit replaced the need for Prophets in the New Testament and in these times. I praise God she remains open to discuss, listen and read the Scriptures for herself allowing God to reveal these things to her.

bobinfaith

 

[Hobie]

Prophecy isn’t just there to fill pages in our Bible. It is God making sure you know that He is in control. Every prophecy shows us that God sees the end from the beginning. Nothing happens by chance. He spoke it first in ~Amos 3: 7, “Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets.” When God prophesies He is never surmising.

Prophecy tells us the same God who ordained the end from the beginning is still in control of each moment in between. Peter calls it “a more sure word of prophecy”, “a light shining in a dark place” ~2 Peter 1:19. When the days seem uncertain, when the world seems out of control, prophecy assures believers that history is not chaotic, but rather part of His divine story.

This means something for the believer. Prophecy is not there to frighten us, but rather to stabilize us. Prophecy creates a confidence in God’s faithfulness, and helps us walk upright when the world around us is going sideways. Each fulfilled prophecy gives us confidence that if God kept those promises, then He will keep the rest too. One day Christ will return just as He has promised ~John 14: 3, and until then, prophecy calls us to be ready, to be faithful, and to keep our eyes on the God who never fails to keep His Word.

So, when someone says prophecy has no real meaning, they are missing the point. Every prophecy in Scripture is part of God’s revelation to disclose who He is, what He has done, and what He still has to do. Prophecy tells us the Author is still writing the story and for the believer, that is both a warning and a promise.

Amen, and we are being torn apart today with all of the forces of evil that Satan can bring in society, in politics, in morals, and between nations, to say nothing of those who have given themselves under his control to destroy Gods people.

 

[Yesua888]

A deeper study is required to understand God's purpose for His Prophets, prophecies and their meaning.

Bob, do you mean Jesus when you say "understanding God's purpose"?
Father God first came to mind ... I would really love to know more about our beginnings, and why Father allowed all the evil to continue, even after the Great Flood ... evil was never wiped out!?
It would be good to go into this deeper xx

 

[bobinfaith]

Bob, do you mean Jesus when you say "understanding God's purpose"?
Father God first came to mind ... I would really love to know more about our beginnings, and why Father allowed all the evil to continue, even after the Great Flood ... evil was never wiped out!?
It would be good to go into this deeper xx

Good morning, Yesua888;

No, I mean God in the context as Supreme Creator. I'm happy to reiterate again and will add;

In my continued growth in the Word, I believe Major and Minor Prophets were sent by God in the Old Testaments to communicate to His messengers (Prophets) and pass on to God's people, especially the stern warnings.

Biblical prophecies in the Old and New Testaments were meant by God to send His message to a broad community or nation that impact many peoples, however, prophecies by God to an individual like Moses or Noah also had a purpose that would affect whole nations.

In the New Testament God still communicates His message to His Prophets through John the Baptist, Paul, John and (I personally call them the minor prophets) Agabus, Philip's four daughters, Silas and Barnabas all in the study book of Acts,(and more.)

Jesus is a Major Prophet as He presented Matthew 24 which I carry daily in my personal devotion and prayers for the Church and world.

This is what I firmly believe and I feel it's important to be open to correction. This is beneficial in our personal growth as disciples.

God bless you, Linda.

bobinfaith

 

[David]

In my continued growth in the Word, I believe Major and Minor Prophets were sent by God in the Old Testaments to communicate to His messengers (Prophets) and pass on to God's people, especially the stern warnings.

Biblical prophecies in the Old and New Testaments were meant by God to send His message to a broad community or nation that impact many peoples, however, prophecies by God to an individual like Moses or Noah also had a purpose that would affect whole nations.

In the New Testament God still communicates His message to His Prophets through John the Baptist, Paul, John and (I personally call them the minor prophets) Agabus, Philip's four daughters, Silas and Barnabas all in the study book of Acts,(and more.)

Jesus is a Major Prophet as He presented Matthew 24 which I carry daily in my personal devotion and prayers for the Church and world.

Scripture gives us just two areas where I would tread lightly. The first is the concept of Christ as a “major prophet.” Jesus did give prophecy, but the Word never classifies Him as an Isaiah or Jeremiah. It calls Him the Son of God ~John 20:31. It calls Him the Word made flesh ~John 1:14. It declares God has spoken finally and fully through Him ~Hebrews 1:1 through 2. So while Jesus did prophesy in Matthew 24, He is not just a prophet. He is the One the prophets were pointing to.

The other area where I would just tread lightly is the belief that God continues to speak His Word through prophets today. Scripture does show prophets during the early days of the church, but it also says the apostles and prophets were the foundation with Christ as the cornerstone ~Ephesians 2:20. A foundation is laid only once. Everything after that is building on what God has already spoken. It doesn’t mean the Spirit has stopped working, just that we stay within the bounds of what the Word actually says.

 

[bobinfaith]

Good morning, David;

I appreciate your wisdom of caution and agree with you.

My emphasis of Jesus, Son of God in conversation is my personal intention of recognizing Him as a Major Prophet. However, I exercise care how I share this especially the Gospel, teaching or preaching.

As far as your last paragraph I find vital and agree as well.

God bless you, David.

bobinfaith

 

[Mr. GLee]

Change the meaning of one word it can change the authority of the whole--- violating' the loving Commandment in Deuteronomy 4:2.not to add or subtract from one word

Prophets are those who declare the will of another sent out as apostles (meaning sent messengers) (UPS, Fed X, Pony Express, smoke signals Or myself My wives favorite errant boy . And not apostles highly venerable ones used in the work of forming patron saints, many gods male and female in the likeness of dying mankind . Nothing is attributed to the messenger thier beautiful feet are shod with the gospel of peace .

There are false apostles that bring the oral tradition of dying mankind and the true sent by the letter of the law (the scriptures ) Thou shall not add or subtract from it .(sola scriptura)

 

[Mr. GLee]

Scripture gives us just two areas where I would tread lightly. The first is the concept of Christ as a “major prophet.” Jesus did give prophecy, but the Word never classifies Him as an Isaiah or Jeremiah. It calls Him the Son of God ~John 20:31. It calls Him the Word made flesh ~John 1:14. It declares God has spoken finally and fully through Him ~Hebrews 1:1 through 2. So while Jesus did prophesy in Matthew 24, He is not just a prophet. He is the One the prophets were pointing to.

The other area where I would just tread lightly is the belief that God continues to speak His Word through prophets today. Scripture does show prophets during the early days of the church, but it also says the apostles and prophets were the foundation with Christ as the cornerstone ~Ephesians 2:20. A foundation is laid only once. Everything after that is building on what God has already spoken. It doesn’t mean the Spirit has stopped working, just that we stay within the bounds of what the Word actually says.

All of the word meaning associated with Christ must be sought out. Some it seems confuse Christ the anointing Holy Father not seen with Jesus the Son of man seen .----easy to do

When the apostle Jesus the Son of man was given words from Christ the Holy Father in John 3 the Son of man jesus prophesying to Nicodemus the sign and wonder seeker . Christ prophesied dying mankind must be born again . . .marvel not but rather believe Christ.

The Son of man Jesus not exempt prayed---- not as I will no power to create a new creatures. But you heavenly Father the "Let there be God" and "it was God alone good".

In that way it would seem Born again Jesus as the first born of many sons of God is not ashamed to call us brothers and sisters

Not the most popular idea but it does ring----- sola scriptura.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

 

[David]

Change the meaning of one word it can change the authority of the whole--- violating' the loving Commandment in Deuteronomy 4:2.not to add or subtract from one word

Prophets are those who declare the will of another sent out as apostles (meaning sent messengers) (UPS, Fed X, Pony Express, smoke signals Or myself My wives favorite errant boy . And not apostles highly venerable ones used in the work of forming patron saints, many gods male and female in the likeness of dying mankind . Nothing is attributed to the messenger thier beautiful feet are shod with the gospel of peace .

There are false apostles that bring the oral tradition of dying mankind and the true sent by the letter of the law (the scriptures ) Thou shall not add or subtract from it .(sola scriptura)

I agree that we are commanded not to add to or subtract from God’s Word ~Deuteronomy 4:2. That is exactly why we need to stick with what the text actually says in its context, not redefine words or build new meanings that Scripture never gives. You keep warning about adding to Scripture, but then you introduce symbolic interpretations that the Bible itself never teaches. That is the very thing Deuteronomy 4:2 forbids.

Prophets in the Bible were not simply couriers or errand boys. They spoke the words God put in their mouths ~Jeremiah 1:9. Apostles were not “highly venerable figures invented by tradition.” They were chosen personally by Christ and sent out with His authority ~John 20:21, ~Ephesians 2:20. Scripture speaks of them with honor because God appointed them, not because people invented titles for them.

There are indeed false apostles ~2 Corinthians 11:13, but the solution is not to dismiss the real ones. The solution is to test every teaching by Scripture in context. True apostles upheld the written Word. False teachers twist it.

If we are going to follow Sola Scriptura, then we must let the Bible explain its own terms instead of substituting allegories or secret meanings. The Word of God is plain. We simply need to approach it in the way God presented it.

 

[David]

All of the word meaning associated with Christ must be sought out. Some it seems confuse Christ the anointing Holy Father not seen with Jesus the Son of man seen .----easy to do

When the apostle Jesus the Son of man was given words from Christ the Holy Father in John 3 the Son of man jesus prophesying to Nicodemus the sign and wonder seeker . Christ prophesied dying mankind must be born again . . .marvel not but rather believe Christ.

The Son of man Jesus not exempt prayed---- not as I will no power to create a new creatures. But you heavenly Father the "Let there be God" and "it was God alone good".

In that way it would seem Born again Jesus as the first born of many sons of God is not ashamed to call us brothers and sisters

Not the most popular idea but it does ring----- sola scriptura.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

Mr. GLee, I need to confront this directly because what you are promoting is not Christian doctrine. The way you continually split “Christ” from “Jesus,” treating them like two different beings, an invisible divine Christ and a visible human Jesus, is not from Scripture. That teaching matches Gnostic dualism, which the apostles condemned because it denied that Jesus Christ came in the flesh ~1 John 4:2–3. The Bible never divides Him. “The Word was God… and the Word was made flesh” ~John 1:1,14. Jesus is the Christ. One Person. Fully God. Fully man.

You also said Jesus had “no power to create,” which is exactly what Arianism teaches, a lesser Jesus who is not eternal God. Scripture refutes that completely. “All things were made by Him” ~John 1:3. “By Him were all things created” ~Colossians 1:16. Denying the Son’s divine power is heresy, not Sola Scriptura.

On top of that, your constant use of hidden symbolism, coded meanings, and allegories that Scripture never gives is nothing but private revelation dressed in biblical language. The Word warns us plainly against this: “No prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation” ~2 Peter 1:20. You are not interpreting Scripture. You are inserting your own system into it.

Your approach also mirrors esoteric teaching, where everything becomes a secret message and nothing is taken at face value. Paul warned that this kind of teaching comes from those who “intrude into things they have not seen” and become “puffed up without reason” ~Colossians 2:18–19. That is not biblical doctrine. It is confusion.

Let me be very clear for the sake of everyone reading: this mixture of Gnostic dualism, Arian denial of Christ’s divinity, private symbolic revelation, and esoteric reinterpretation will not be tolerated on this forum. Our rules are grounded in Sola Scriptura. We do not allow teachings that redefine who Jesus is or add meanings the Bible never gives.

If you continue promoting these ideas, your account will be removed from the forum. This community exists to defend the truth of God’s Word, not to give space to teachings Scripture itself warns against.